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The Basic module is pictured below.
 
The Basic module is pictured below.
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[[File:800 MHz POWER AMPLIFIER MODULE Layout.png|300px|center|thumbnail|00 MHz POWER AMPLIFIER MODULE Layout]]
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800 MHz POWER AMPLIFIER MODULE Layout.png|800 MHz POWER AMPLIFIER MODULE Layout
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The major parts of the PA are  
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The major parts of the PA are
 
* Printed circuit board
 
* Printed circuit board
 
* Intermediate PA
 
* Intermediate PA
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The R3 and R4 module part numbers are the same as what's in a generation one amplifier.  R0-R2 is new parts which cover the whole frequency range (380-470 MHz) with the exception of the R2 LPF.
 
  
 
The IPA module is a 1.5 W output that feeds into the DPA.  The DPA takes this and ups it to 5-15W depending on the VOMNI control voltage. The passes into the FPA which can output 140-160W.   
 
The IPA module is a 1.5 W output that feeds into the DPA.  The DPA takes this and ups it to 5-15W depending on the VOMNI control voltage. The passes into the FPA which can output 140-160W.   
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The exciter controls the output power by an analog output (V_CONT) 0-5v from the CPU.  This voltage is then used to control a couple transistors (Q4100 & Q4101) making the V_OMNI voltage that varies the first stage in the Intermediate PA.   
 
The exciter controls the output power by an analog output (V_CONT) 0-5v from the CPU.  This voltage is then used to control a couple transistors (Q4100 & Q4101) making the V_OMNI voltage that varies the first stage in the Intermediate PA.   
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The complete schematics are PNG format and are also available as a  
 
The complete schematics are PNG format and are also available as a  
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= Pictures =  
 
= Pictures =  
  
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This is a UHF R0 Generation 2 PA I took pictures of.
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This is an 800 MHz unmodified PA I took pictures of.
 
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01_UHF_R0_2nd_Gen_PA.jpg|Quantar UHF Range 0 Second Generation Power Amplifier
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800 MHz PA 00001.JPG|Quantar 800 MHz PA 01
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02_UHF_R0_2nd_Gen_PA.jpg|Quantar UHF Range 0 Second Generation Power Amplifier
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800 MHz PA 00002.JPG|Quantar 800 MHz PA 02
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03_UHF_R0_2nd_Gen_PA.jpg|Quantar UHF Range 0 Second Generation Power Amplifier
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800 MHz PA 00003.JPG|Quantar 800 MHz PA 03
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04_UHF_R0_2nd_Gen_PA.jpg|Quantar UHF Range 0 Second Generation Power Amplifier
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800 MHz PA 00004.JPG|Quantar 800 MHz PA 04
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05_UHF_R0_2nd_Gen_PA.jpg|Quantar UHF Range 0 Second Generation Power Amplifier
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800 MHz PA 00005.JPG|Quantar 800 MHz PA 05
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06_UHF_R0_2nd_Gen_PA.jpg|Quantar UHF Range 0 Second Generation Power Amplifier
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800 MHz PA 00006.JPG|Quantar 800 MHz PA 06
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07_UHF_R0_2nd_Gen_PA.jpg|Quantar UHF Range 0 Second Generation Power Amplifier
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800 MHz PA 00007.JPG|Quantar 800 MHz PA 07
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08_UHF_R0_2nd_Gen_PA.jpg|Quantar UHF Range 0 Second Generation Power Amplifier
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800 MHz PA 00008.JPG|Quantar 800 MHz PA 08
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09_UHF_R0_2nd_Gen_PA.jpg|Quantar UHF Range 0 Second Generation Power Amplifier
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800 MHz PA 00009.JPG|Quantar 800 MHz PA 09
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10_UHF_R0_2nd_Gen_PA.jpg|Quantar UHF Range 0 Second Generation Power Amplifier
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800 MHz PA 00010.JPG|Quantar 800 MHz PA 10
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800 MHz PA 00011.JPG|Quantar 800 MHz PA 11
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800 MHz PA 00012.JPG|Quantar 800 MHz PA 12
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800 MHz PA 00013.JPG|Quantar 800 MHz PA 13
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800 MHz PA 00014.JPG|Quantar 800 MHz PA 14
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800 MHz PA 00015.JPG|Quantar 800 MHz PA 15
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800 MHz PA 00016.JPG|Quantar 800 MHz PA 16
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800 MHz PA 00017.JPG|Quantar 800 MHz PA 17
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800 MHz PA 00018.JPG|Quantar 800 MHz PA 18
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800 MHz PA 00019.JPG|Quantar 800 MHz PA 19
 
</gallery>
 
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= Conversions =
 
= Conversions =
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The 800 PA is sufficiently broadband to work up at 940 MHz.  In testing with a signal generator, the PA continued to make rated power out to 965 MHz and made about 70W up to 999 MHz (the top range of the generator).
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== 800 to 900 MHz ==
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First we need to set the physical PA ID bits.
  
 
PA ID is done via a resistor "ROM".  This is a voltage divider on an analog input on the exciter.  It appears to be in half volt increments and the exciter split must match the PA.
 
PA ID is done via a resistor "ROM".  This is a voltage divider on an analog input on the exciter.  It appears to be in half volt increments and the exciter split must match the PA.
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! PA Type !! PA_ID_A !! PA_ID_B !! R4162 !! R4163 !! R4164 !! R4165
 
! PA Type !! PA_ID_A !! PA_ID_B !! R4162 !! R4163 !! R4164 !! R4165
 
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| UHF 110W R0 || 0.0 || 1.5 || OPEN || 0 || 390 || 1k
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| 900 100W || 3.0 || .5 || 20.5k || 10k || 1k || OPEN
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| UHF 110W R1 || 1.0 || 0.5 || 15k || 1.5k || 560 || 10k
 
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| UHF 110W R2 || 1.5 || 0.5 || 1k || 390 || 100 || 1k
 
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| UHF 110W R3 || 3.0 || 1.0 || 2.2k || 2.7k || 1.5k || 15k
 
 
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| UHF 100W R4 || 3.5 || 1.0 || 18k || 15k || 1.5k || 15k
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| 800 100W || 0.5 || 1.0 || OPEN || 0 || 1.5K || 15K
 
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== R0 to R2 ==
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Even though the IPA/DPA/PA/LPF are different from the 900 MHz PA they cover the band with full output.  The circulator is the same unit and covers 850-960 MHz. 
  
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Converting from a R0 to R2 is quite easy.
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The LPF is concern, but in testing for insertion loss the roll off is still sufficiently high to work at 947 MHz which would be the highest frequency for the commercial band.  The difference was .12 dB more insertion loss which is about 3W of additional dissipation.
  
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The major components will cover the R2 band fully.  The IPA, FPA and circulator are the same with only the LPF being different.
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Below is a sweep of a 800 and 900 LPF; 800 is in yellow and 900 is in pink and swept with key data points taken.
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The LPF is different but there is not any problem with using it for R2.  I need to test the R0 LPF at R2, as I've not swept the R0, but I suspect it's substantially similar to the R1 Gen 1 module I did sweep. 
 
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Below is a sweep of a Gen 1 LPF; R1 & R2 were swept with key data points taken as you can see below.
 
  
 
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UHF R1 Power Amplifer Low Pass Filter sweep.png|UHF R1 Power Amplifier Low Pass Filter sweep
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Quantar 800 MHz Power Amp Low Pass Filter response.png|800 MHz Filter response
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UHF R2 Power Amplifer Low Pass Filter Overlay on R1.png|UHF R2 LPF (Purple) overlay on R1 (yellow)
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Quantar 900 Power Amp Low Pass Filter and 800 Low Pass Filter.png|900 purple and 800 yellow LPF
 
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The only thing necessary to convert the R0 to R2 is to change the ID resistors.
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The only thing necessary to convert the 800 to 900 MHz is to change the ID resistors and then re-tune.
  
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== PA Fan ==
  
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== R2 to R0 ==
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A number of 800 MHz PA's have the PA fan's run continuously.  I'm not sure why this is, but it's caused by a removal of an inductor L4123 on the PA.  I've tested this by jumpering it back in place, and it does start the PA fans after it warms up, but it fails to shut it off again.  More investigation is required, if you know please update this.
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Should be the same as R1 to R2
 
  
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== R3/4 to R2 ==
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L4123 PA Fan Control.png|800 MHz PA Fan control inductor
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I've never seen the R3/4 amp modules.  The Gen 2 R3/4 parts are the same as the Gen 1 leading me to believe their may not be a Generation 2 version of these module.  This would make sense as only the R0 was added after the fact.
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Never attempted.  The IPA, FPA, LPF and circulator are different.  I would assume the IPA and FPA would be good.  The circulator most likely needs to be changed, and harmonics checked, as the LPF cutoff is higher.
 
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If anyone wants to try it and document it, please add it.
 
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== R3 to R4 or R4 to R3 ==
 
  
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Never attempted.  The IPA, and FPA are different, but most likely will work as it's a ~5.4% frequency shift.  The circulator and LPF are identical on these units so it should be only a matter of changing the ID.
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[[Category:Quantar]]

Latest revision as of 21:51, 30 November 2016

The Quantar 800 MHz Power Amp is designed to cover the 850-870 MHz band. It includes a built in single stage circulator and low pass filter

Basics

The Basic module is pictured below.

  • 800 MHz POWER AMPLIFIER MODULE Layout

The major parts of the PA are

  • Printed circuit board
  • Intermediate PA
  • Driver PA
  • Final PA
  • Circulator
  • Low Pass Filter

Each of these parts varies depending on the range of the PA. Note the Circulator is the same between 800 and 900 PA's.

Band IPA DPA FPA Circulator LPF
800 CLF6485A CTF6331A CTF6337A 5884911T06 TFF6280B
900 CLF6485A CTF6348A CLF6496A 5884911T06 TLF7150A


The IPA module is a 1.5 W output that feeds into the DPA. The DPA takes this and ups it to 5-15W depending on the VOMNI control voltage. The passes into the FPA which can output 140-160W. Unfortunately there is no diagram of the IPA or FPA modules.

The FPA module consists of two parallel PA strips with two FET's each for a total of four devices. Each strip is addressed as "A" and "B" in the radio for the current monitoring of the PA.

It's interesting that Motorola is using a part rated for 45W at 960 MHz. They have a total of 180W of power available in this design, and while they loose some in the Wilkerson combiners, it's a very robust design.

Note there is no CPU or even much digital circuitry in the PA. All metering is done via the exciter CPU mostly using an analog input and switches (U4103/4) to switch this input between different voltages on the PA.

The exciter controls the output power by an analog output (V_CONT) 0-5v from the CPU. This voltage is then used to control a couple transistors (Q4100 & Q4101) making the V_OMNI voltage that varies the first stage in the Intermediate PA.

The complete schematics are PNG format and are also available as a PDF

  • 800 MHz POWER AMPLIFIER MODULE-1

  • 800 MHz POWER AMPLIFIER MODULE-2

Pictures

This is an 800 MHz unmodified PA I took pictures of.

  • Quantar 800 MHz PA 01

  • Quantar 800 MHz PA 02

  • Quantar 800 MHz PA 03

  • Quantar 800 MHz PA 04

  • Quantar 800 MHz PA 05

  • Quantar 800 MHz PA 06

  • Quantar 800 MHz PA 07

  • Quantar 800 MHz PA 08

  • Quantar 800 MHz PA 09

  • Quantar 800 MHz PA 10

  • Quantar 800 MHz PA 11

  • Quantar 800 MHz PA 12

  • Quantar 800 MHz PA 13

  • Quantar 800 MHz PA 14

  • Quantar 800 MHz PA 15

  • Quantar 800 MHz PA 16

  • Quantar 800 MHz PA 17

  • Quantar 800 MHz PA 18

  • Quantar 800 MHz PA 19

Conversions

The 800 PA is sufficiently broadband to work up at 940 MHz. In testing with a signal generator, the PA continued to make rated power out to 965 MHz and made about 70W up to 999 MHz (the top range of the generator).

800 to 900 MHz

First we need to set the physical PA ID bits.

PA ID is done via a resistor "ROM". This is a voltage divider on an analog input on the exciter. It appears to be in half volt increments and the exciter split must match the PA.

  • Layout of PA ID Resistors in the PA

  • Pictures of ID Resistors

Note the arrangement of R4164 and R4165 in the layout, they do not go in order!

PA Type PA_ID_A PA_ID_B R4162 R4163 R4164 R4165
900 100W 3.0 .5 20.5k 10k 1k OPEN
800 100W 0.5 1.0 OPEN 0 1.5K 15K


Even though the IPA/DPA/PA/LPF are different from the 900 MHz PA they cover the band with full output. The circulator is the same unit and covers 850-960 MHz.

The LPF is concern, but in testing for insertion loss the roll off is still sufficiently high to work at 947 MHz which would be the highest frequency for the commercial band. The difference was .12 dB more insertion loss which is about 3W of additional dissipation.

Below is a sweep of a 800 and 900 LPF; 800 is in yellow and 900 is in pink and swept with key data points taken.

  • 800 MHz Filter response

  • 900 purple and 800 yellow LPF


The only thing necessary to convert the 800 to 900 MHz is to change the ID resistors and then re-tune.

PA Fan

A number of 800 MHz PA's have the PA fan's run continuously. I'm not sure why this is, but it's caused by a removal of an inductor L4123 on the PA. I've tested this by jumpering it back in place, and it does start the PA fans after it warms up, but it fails to shut it off again. More investigation is required, if you know please update this.

  • 800 MHz PA Fan control inductor

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