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There are a few ways to link [[Quantar|Quantars]], using [[Allstar® and P25 on Quantar|p25nx]], mmvdm, and the method presented here using astro tacs.
 
There are a few ways to link [[Quantar|Quantars]], using [[Allstar® and P25 on Quantar|p25nx]], mmvdm, and the method presented here using astro tacs.
  

Revision as of 04:12, 19 April 2020

THIS IS A WORK IN PROGRESS

There are a few ways to link Quantars, using p25nx, mmvdm, and the method presented here using astro tacs.

Quantars were designed to be "linked" only as a simulcast or linked receiver network for a single system. This is accomplished by connecting the wireline for analog and the v.24 for digital. Quantars may be linked back-to-back by using a v.24 cross over and connecting the wirelines between them. While this is the simplest way, it doesn't scale. Using an ASTROTAC comparator to sit between the Quantars as a network switch function.

Each Quantar needs a two links to the ASTRO-TAC, a v.24 and a wireline link. If all Quantars are at the same site, this is really easy to do, just connect the wirelines and v.24's using cross overs. In the early 1990's the v.24 and wireline interfaces made quite a bit of sense, the v.24 and wireline would plug directly into a channel bank, and the DS1 or fractional DS1's between sites was easy. As of today, T1's are hard to find and very expensive. Channel banks are thousands of dollars on the used market now.

Today the internet is ubiquitous and linking via IP is the preferred method. This means we must transport synchronous serial and analog voice for each Quantar back to a central site. There are a few ways to do this via IP or MPLS, and presented here will be using cheap and easily available cisco routers in a VPN.


Architecture overview

Logical connections

overlay network

circuits over this

Network Planning

Lots of routers, lots of ports, lots of circuits. You will need to name and keep interfaces described or you will be unable to troubleshoot this network.

Reliable bandwidth and pps is required. The analog links will require about 60 kbit/s at 33 PPS at all times , stun is another 20 kbit/s when it's operating. A fully loaded 16 port ATAC3000 using all remote ports will be 1.280 Mbit/s at 1220 PPS or about a fully loaded T1.


IP addressing

Interface naming

DNS

security

network monitoring

A server with LibreNMS or Observium

SNMP

SSH for management

Hardware for linking

Will you need analog? If no you can eliminate a bunch of configuration and half the circuits. The bandwidth requirements at the hub will be less as well.


Hub site

A hub site needs a router with at least the number of ports on it you plan to use remotely. A converted quantar might only have 5 ports, but a fully loaded ATAC could be 16. If they are all remote you will need that too. The hub router also need to process a number of things on the network. All in all it's not much, but given the cost of the cisco routers on the used market the following config has become my standard.

  • Cisco 3845 router
    • AIM-VPN/SSL-3 VPN Module for 3825/3845 Routers
    • 768M or 1GB of RAM
    • 2GB flash disk
    • PVDM2-64 (DSP module for analog lines)
    • Optional PSU PWR-3845-AC-IP, this will supply 48v for the switch card
  • 1, NM-16A/S - Cisco 800-20840-01D 16-Port Async/Sync Serial Network Module (you can use the NM-8A/S too, but it's got different connectors)
  • 8, Cisco VIC2-2E/M 2-Port Ear and Mouth Voice Interface Card (only for analog)
  • 2, Cisco NM-2V, carrier cards for VIC2 to put in the NM ports
  • 1, NME-16ES-1G-P 16 Port POE switch module. This is optional but it provides a 3750 switch in a network module with POE that can power RPi's or other local devices.
  • CAB-SS-232FC, RS-232 Cable, DCE Female to Smart Serial for all serial ports
  • OR CISCO CAB-232FC RS-232 Cable, DCE Female to Serial if using the 8 port card.


Edge site

An edge site can support one or two Quantars or cascaded (advanced) ATACs. If you don't need to support Voice, an 1841 or other 1800 series router can be used, but the cost delta is negligible. This entire 2811 setup is under $100 via eBay. I like to use the same cables and connectors for serial at the hub as at the edge sites, this determines the cards for serial. If you're doing voice, two ports of serial matches the 2 ports of E and M well.

  • Cisco 2811
    • AIM-VPN/SSL-2 VPN Module for 2811 Routers
    • 512M of RAM
    • 2GB flash disk
    • PVDM2-64 (DSP module for analog lines)
  • 1, WIC-2A/S 2 port Serial WAN Interface Card OR
  • 1, WIC-1T 1 port Serial Card uses the larger serial connector
  • 1, Cisco VIC2-2E/M 2-Port Ear and Mouth Voice Interface Card (only for analog)
  • CAB-SS-232FC, RS-232 Cable, DCE Female to Smart Serial for all serial ports
  • OR CISCO CAB-232FC RS-232 Cable, DCE Female to Serial if using the 8 port card.

You may want to pickup a serial adapter and FTDI serial to USB dongle for console access just to leave at the site. This can be handy.


Making it work

configuring the hub

DMVPN config

Configuring a client